andeelym Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hi folks, When you guys mention about the limited number of connections that WinXP has, do you mean the number of remote desktop connection? Or do you mean the number of gamers that can connect to the box via game servers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studeggle Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 It is Number of connections. Not number of remote desktop, any session that connects is limited, many games have seporate interface so each player isn't a connection, but I wouldn't say all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andeelym Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 So running HLDSes and SRCDs are not limited? Am i right to say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studeggle Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I don't believe they would be the case from my experience with XP. But I will NOT try to run pro game servers from XP as it's not a server OS so I can't be certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamnp Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I believe what you might be referring to is the Windows OS being restricted to the number of running services it can have, which I think is around 128.. Not positive if this situation is still around, or if its been fixed in recent Windows Updates, it was a bug around a year ago though...And I believe there was a patch file on ventrilo.com. People running an extreme number of instances of ventrilo would eventually be maxed out due to the number of services windows allowed...Thats where I get this from. ---CUT--- http://www.devnewsgroups.net/group/microsoft.public.dotnet.framework/topic15947.aspx --REFERENCE-- Looking into this issue, I made some observations: Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition - Runs 75 services MAX Windows XP SP2 - Runs 77 services MAX Windows 2000 SP4 - 28 services MAX Below Registry value for all above configurations: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Below is what I changed on a test Windows 2000 SP4 (server-pjs2) to get more services running under USER CONTEXT: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512,512 - Default value - allows 28 services MAX SharedSection=1024,3072,256,256 - Allows me to run 58 Services MAX SharedSection=1024,3072,128,256 - Allows me to run 120 Services (we could probably go more than 120, but I stopped here). This is definately an operating system issue. After the MAX services running is reached, NO other services (any services - does not have to be a ..NET service) will run under USER context. Services still can be run under the LocalSystem account though. Here are some links of that might be useful: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=184802 http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBQ/tip8000/rh8031.htm http://www.rtems.com/ml/rtems-users/2004/september/msg00028.html --END CUT-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisOlver Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Just to note that the XP EULA is against hosting services isn't it? For the sake of it, getting a SPLA agreement from Microsoft directly means you can get a monthly license of Server 2003 Standard for £2.00 a month None of this £15/£20 a month rubbish! -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougK94 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 For the price of MS's SPLA, it does not make sense to run XP over w2k3 standard. Then you do not even have to worry about the legal aspect..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Chris, I think you are misreading the Microsoft SPLA agreement your looking at the cost of a Subscriber Licenses (SAL). Cost is around the $15 per processor mark. Id get the real pricing, but then id have to sign in to explore.ms *cry* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 There's a ceiling on how many instances you can run as a service in windows which is why we only use *nix for voice hosting. I don't recall the specifics off hand but the article Adam quoted is a good read if your interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECF Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Not true Rich. There are registry settings that can be changed as specified above in another post to allow as many services as you like. We currently have a few larger hosts running vent on windows without the service limit issue. Reference: http://esupport.tcadmin.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=23&nav=0,6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisOlver Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Chris, I think you are misreading the Microsoft SPLA agreement your looking at the cost of a Subscriber Licenses (SAL). Cost is around the $15 per processor mark. From what I remember reading on the Microsoft SPLA website, you had an option of going down the route of SAL or Processor. It all depends on your usage of Server 2003, this was all confirmed to me when I asked our provider of SPLA licenses (mainly due to the fact Microsoft don't do SPLA directly). If both myself and the company who has the contract with Microsoft is wrong then I can see someone getting sued. -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Chris, you have to have a license of windows (comes with 5 cal) before you can buy additional CALs AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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