Glim Days at GameDaemons

[Defcon|Rich]

As for the ventrilo. I have continued and will continue to send in my application once a week every week. I don't agree with there ways, about the same as EA anymore. Those 2 companies are so 1 sided its unreal.

You all sit here and wonder why people run GSP into the ground. Its because when they try to start a GSP, they cant get anything. Such as BF2, BF2142. Thats a big money maker, and everyone wants ranked. People sell unranked servers for pennies on the dollar to get what they can. Honor server is somewhat the same way. $1000.00 + ?

You have to either one pray your luck is good or two stick it out and do what you can. Myself, I just say to heck with AA and EA games and try to run everything else. For ventrilo I'm forced to go resellers in order to offer it. Its a shame that although I went and followed what Ventrilo wanted ( Registered LLC ). I'm still unable to obtain the license.

 

Nothing like a donkey kicking contest with no legs or arms. Know wonder people have to offer low end prices to even compete.

 

 

(My two cents)

 

 

Many different industries are like that I'm afraid. I know guys making $10k/mo with less then $500 overhead hosting porn sites but getting into that industry is virtually impossible. If you take a look at most retail markets it's pretty much the same so while I sympathize with your plight I don't see it as valid under the circumstances.

[adamnp]

You answered your own question Adam, MakeAVoice never had a license to sell ventrilo and I will explain why.. Under ventrilo's legal terms the 'company' operates as the exclusive license holder not the 'individual' who sent the application which means for example if I were to leave defconservers I couldn't then open another business using a different name and sell ventrilo under the original license just because I am the principle applicant. The license is listed under the business name defconservers not me therefore it is not transferable.

 

There's also a clause in case some of you are wondering that you cannot simply purchase a company with a ventrilo license and therefore assume the license. From my understanding there is pending litigation on a few that tried doing that so it's not really advisable.

 

Hmm, I had talked to Peter about this a few months back, and from the words he had told me he was reselling BBServers to MakeAVoice. And that MakeAVoice also re-sold NationVoice until they had a 'falling out' when NationVoice purchased makeavoice.net/.org and re-routed to nationvoice.com. (haha, the old dirty trick! make sure you register all your company TLDs!!)

 

That you very well could do, correct? If you were to open richsvoip.com and then resell from the defcon license to yourself @ richsvoip, you'd still be operating under the defcon license...I would say your correct in saying that 'MakeAVoice' the company didn't have its 'own' license, but in essense the principal owners of the company did have exclusive access to a license at Flagships pricing, and used that to launch makeavoice in a round-a-bout fashion.

 

Again, this is coming from Peter's mouth.

[Defcon|Rich]

There are several things added in the professional license that I'm not at liberty to discuss but I would guess makeavoice's two handed approach to the business probably was their downfall.

[Daersun]

My understanding was MAV was simply a DBA name for BB servers, I was always billed from BB servers directly, never from MAV.