Question About Server!

[qwidjib0]

Dell gives some massive deals on high-end machines on bulk orders if you negotiate, though if you find a good SuperMicro distributor (I'd recommend ICC), you can find systems in the same ballpark, possibly at lower quantities. From what I've seen, all of the above have fantastic hardware; there's really nothing wrong with using any of them (cabinets filled with Dells just look prettier ).

 

Honestly though, despite all the advice I've given to so many GSP's (and I know many here have as well), I at least have yet to come across even one that doesn't have their own long list of theories about the only way their infrastructure can possibly work, how it's going to revolutionalise the industry, and I think I have yet to see any two be the same. At the same time, most of them don't stay in business past a few months, and only a very tiny handful of providers in the industry have even reached a point of legitimizing a full-time business for even one person - so I'd say if something is working for you, stick with it.

[nosit1]

...so I'd say if something is working for you, stick with it.

To add to that, something that works for one person may not work for another person

[SickPuppy]

Buy a supermicro 1U bare bones system from newegg and install the CPU, RAM, and HDs of your choice.

 

SUPERMICRO 6015V-TB 1U Rackmount Barebones Server Intel 5000V Dual LGA 771

 

These are great servers for the build it yourself types, just pop in a couple of CPUs, some RAM, and a Hard drive. Nothing to it.

 

You can set this up with dual Harpertown 5405, 8 Gigs RAM, and two 500 Gig HDs all for around $1400. Over the average life span of the server thats about $23 a month.

[SickPuppy]

We're using both: Q6600, Intel MB, Supermicro and HP servers.

Usually for big servers we're using HP and it's near same price than Supermicro systems but with great support and integrated IPMI (and i dont like spending my time searching compatible memory for Supermicro mb, HP is selling me what i need)

 

 

In the amount of time you spent reading and responding to this thread you could have downloaded a RAM compatibility chart.

[maddanny]

In the amount of time you spent reading and responding to this thread you could have downloaded a RAM compatibility chart.

 

A compatibility chart is for guys that're buying a server or 2. When you have more, you want results ! And it's not always easy to found specific RAMs (even for Kingston!).

 

For your 5405 sample, a HP DL160 will cost me just 25€ more (for 1 piece, if you get more you can have 4x500GB HDD included than same Supermicro config (i used european prices) but with 4 hotplug drives slots and up to 32Gig of RAM (4Gig*8 slots).

 

I'm doing this job since years and all my servers are working fine

[SickPuppy]

I'm doing this job since years and all my servers are working fine

 

 

maddanny, that is the point I am trying to make, don't pay for support packages from HP or Dell that you will never use. When you have a problem just outsorce it and have it fixed. That way you only pay for what you use.

[maddanny]

maddanny, that is the point I am trying to make, don't pay for support packages from HP or Dell that you will never use. When you have a problem just outsorce it and have it fixed. That way you only pay for what you use.

 

Well, a HP 3 year next day onsite contract cost around 150€ ! As i'm living at few minutes from our datacenter, that allows me having very few spares and keeping high availability.

How much do you think same service will cost from an outsourced guy ?

You are still new in business, so trust older guys A support contract is working like insurances, doesnt serve until the day ...

[KP-Dallas]

Maddanny,Im Am Also Starting a GSP and have ordered dell also can you post your server specs for me to review?

[studeggle]

Well, a HP 3 year next day onsite contract cost around 150€ ! As i'm living at few minutes from our datacenter, that allows me having very few spares and keeping high availability.

How much do you think same service will cost from an outsourced guy ?

You are still new in business, so trust older guys A support contract is working like insurances, doesnt serve until the day ...

 

Just make sure you are being honest with yourself about the costs. If the equipment costs 10% more and they charge 150 for a next day contract, then the cost is actually more

Also if you're going to rely on a next day contract make darn sure your TOS covers you for a 24 hr repair as I can garuntee a customer won't deem it good. Most gamers are biting your head off after a measly hr of down time, I shudder to think of the responce to it won't be back online until tomorrow statment in a support ticket

[SickPuppy]

Just make sure you are being honest with yourself about the costs. If the equipment costs 10% more and they charge 150 for a next day contract, then the cost is actually more

 

That is what I have been saying all along. You are not just paying 150 euro or $220 US because you are paying $500 to $1000 more for the server on top of the cost of the support plan.

 

If I could get dual quad core servers with 8 Gigs of RAM and two 500 Gig HDs from Dell for $1400 I would buy them. But you cannot, you end up paying $2600 and then another $200 for the three-year support option.

 

I tried to get a deal from Dell a few months ago for 10 systems like the one above and the price was still $700 more per unit than it would cost me to build.

[KingJ]

If component replacement cost is your reason for getting support plans, remember that most components have long warranties anyway and you can recoup the cost after installing a new one. The only thing the support plan might offer is a tech call out to the DC, but in most cases you live close enough to the DC or you can get the DC techs to do it for a small fee.

[maddanny]

That is what I have been saying all along. You are not just paying 150 euro or $220 US because you are paying $500 to $1000 more for the server on top of the cost of the support plan.

 

I know my english is very bad, but read again my example