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Derek Super Member

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I seem to remember another debate we had here where I was flamed for my thoughts on the "pretty vs ugly" websites. PRETTY sites means SALES, get it? I have spoken!!, LOL

 

He is an example......

You on a summer road trip, (internet) in another town that you were never in.

It's lunch time, you pull off the exit and see a strip mall (google)

You get out of the car and walk down the mall (clicking on links)

Low and behold you see 2 chinese restaurants 3 doors away from each other, what can I say the landlord was a prick, LOL

Both have a $4.99 lunch special. Great Deal!!

Place A is so dirty you can barely see thru the windows, floors are filthy, I swear I saw a dead cat in the corner, LOL

Place B was brand new and sparkled.

 

I'll eat at place B THANK YOU!!

 

If the above don't convince you then look at Mr.Biloh!!

He is so cheap his shoes squeak but he spent bucks on his crossing site..:)

 

j/k John!!

 

=bobby

 

This man has the right idea.

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SickPuppy Super Member

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I seem to remember another debate we had here where I was flamed for my thoughts on the "pretty vs ugly" websites. PRETTY sites means SALES, get it? I have spoken!!, LOL

 

He is an example......

You on a summer road trip, (internet) in another town that you were never in.

It's lunch time, you pull off the exit and see a strip mall (google)

You get out of the car and walk down the mall (clicking on links)

Low and behold you see 2 chinese restaurants 3 doors away from each other, what can I say the landlord was a prick, LOL

Both have a $4.99 lunch special. Great Deal!!

Place A is so dirty you can barely see thru the windows, floors are filthy, I swear I saw a dead cat in the corner, LOL

Place B was brand new and sparkled.

 

I'll eat at place B THANK YOU!!

 

If the above don't convince you then look at Mr.Biloh!!

He is so cheap his shoes squeak but he spent bucks on his crossing site..:)

 

j/k John!!

 

=bobby

 

Ok let me expand on your analogy

 

You go in to store B and order the eggrolls and some fried rice. The waitress is a gorgeous young Asian girl as you expect in store B.

 

You order, 3 hours later you get your meal. The food is terrible, the waitress will not return to your table to see if you need a refill on your drink. You get the check and find out that your $4.99 special did not include the price of the drink which is an additional $2.99 and because the waitress is so lazy and was never getting any tips the store decided to stick all of it customers with a 15% gratuity so your $4.99 meal, that was so bad you could not eat it, cost you $9.18.

 

So you leave store B but you are still hungry so you go into store A. You order the $4.99 eggroll and fried rice special. The waitress is an old woman. A few minutes later you receive your meal and the food is the best you have ever tasted. The waitress refills your drink several times without being asked. And when you get the check it is just $4.99. So the lesson learned, and one you should have picked up in grade school "Don't Judge a book by its cover."

 

In just the few short years that I have been in the GSP industry I have seen many GSPs go under and the two things that all of them had in common, a pretty website and a poor business plan.

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Come on Puppy, your running wayyyyy off topic here....

We are not talking about service etc here. It's pretty vs non pretty sites.

 

=bobby

 

The point I am making is, pretty might get them in the store but service is what keeps them coming back.

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The point I am making is, pretty might get them in the store but service is what keeps them coming back.

 

 

Ok, but we aren't talking about RETAINING the customer here. We are talking about how Pretty brings them in better than a non pretty site.

Stay on topic.

 

-bobby

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Ok, but we aren't talking about RETAINING the customer here. We are talking about how Pretty brings them in better than a non pretty site.

Stay on topic.

 

-bobby

 

Stay on topic dude LOL. This thread started off about AOW purchasing Wolf, we are way off topic here.

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Stay on topic dude LOL. This thread started off about AOW purchasing Wolf, we are way off topic here.

 

Puppy? do you have ADD or something? LOL

 

You brought up the pretty site issue. Just say

bobby you are right and this will end. stop with this circus already.

 

-bobby

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DougK94 Super Member

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But which is better?

 

A website that gets 100 unique hits and gets an order from 5% of these because of the functionality, security, design and competitive pricing with a very high retention rate.

 

A website that gets 100 unique hits and gets an order from 0.5% of these because of the lack of functionality, security, design and also has the same competitive pricing and retention rate as the other.

 

Compare apples to apples. Identical pricing, reputation, service, support, quality and so on and so on, with the only difference being the design and functionality of the website. The appealing site will be the winner hands down.

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Getting back on the original topic. Anyone that is selling their GSP or any other company at this time is doing so from a position of weakness and is probably overextended. In this economic recession now is not the time to sell unless you have no other alternative. Sellers are in a position of weakness right now. Buyers on the other hand are sitting in a position of power. If you have the capital or can get it, now is the time to buy. Just guessing but I will bet that Wolf did not get anywhere near the true value of the company.

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But which is better?

 

A website that gets 100 unique hits and gets an order from 5% of these because of the functionality, security, design and competitive pricing with a very high retention rate.

 

A website that gets 100 unique hits and gets an order from 0.5% of these because of the lack of functionality, security, design and also has the same competitive pricing and retention rate as the other.

 

Compare apples to apples. Identical pricing, reputation, service, support, quality and so on and so on, with the only difference being the design and functionality of the website. The appealing site will be the winner hands down.

 

 

Damn dude I expect to catch hell from the pretty boys but from NEI!!! Your website is both ugly and plain.

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Ok let me expand on your analogy

 

You go in to store B and order the eggrolls and some fried rice. The waitress is a gorgeous young Asian girl as you expect in store B.

 

You order, 3 hours later you get your meal. The food is terrible, the waitress will not return to your table to see if you need a refill on your drink. You get the check and find out that your $4.99 special did not include the price of the drink which is an additional $2.99 and because the waitress is so lazy and was never getting any tips the store decided to stick all of it customers with a 15% gratuity so your $4.99 meal, that was so bad you could not eat it, cost you $9.18.

 

So you leave store B but you are still hungry so you go into store A. You order the $4.99 eggroll and fried rice special. The waitress is an old woman. A few minutes later you receive your meal and the food is the best you have ever tasted. The waitress refills your drink several times without being asked. And when you get the check it is just $4.99. So the lesson learned, and one you should have picked up in grade school "Don't Judge a book by its cover."

 

In just the few short years that I have been in the GSP industry I have seen many GSPs go under and the two things that all of them had in common, a pretty website and a poor business plan.

 

This still proves that the pretty website easily converted over its competition. Let's pretend that each Store is just a reseller for an attached kitchen in the back. The pretty store is always going to convert over the ugly or less pretty one.

 

I'm not talking about anyone's website here. It's just for the analogy.

 

Would you agree or disagree based on what the customer sees when they arrive that a pretty website will convert over a less pretty one?

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SickPuppy Super Member

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Is there some kind of war going on in this thread :o

 

Btw, does my site suck to :( http://www.an-servers.com

 

I need to know so I can move myself to redesign it

 

No war going on dude I just like to argue about things. Nothing wrong with your website. I just thought it was funny the NEI was dishing out crap about my website. And yes someday I will redesign my website but I will still go ugly, it's working for me.

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Let me tell you a true story. I was shopping online one day for cheap colos in Atlanta. After going to several impressive websites and getting outrageous quotes I find the ugliest website I have ever seen. It was all yellow text in a black background. No graphics, no flash, not even a hyperlink. Just an explanation of who they are and what their colo fees were. Looked like a 4th graders first attempt at web design. But not being one to judge I called the number on the webpage, can't call it a website as it was only one page of text, and actually sent a server to them for colo. Well this has been the best deal I ever found for the less than what most companies were going to charge me for a single 1U I was able to get two 1U servers coloed with them and now we are purchasing a 1/4 rack.

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Lets just say it all depends on the person. Some people who are only looking for the best price, will settle on a low end style web site. Someone else may only care about the look of the website. There is no right or wrong answer as it comes to the look of a site. Its all personal preference.

 

Personally I try to look for both style and functionality. I care more about functionality than design. (Like does there forums MATCH their main site? even million dollar companies FAIL on that one). I don't like to have 3 different logins for a site, so a fourms that looks and feels like the rest of the site, that I don't have to log into again, tells me they care about there appearance, even if the design isn't Multi-thousand dollar design....

Just got to find what works for you, and your target customer base.

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SickPuppy, thank you very much for the kind compliments.

 

I do not believe I mentioned or implied anyone's website was a pretty one or an ugly one. What I was attempting to point out was the argument you were using was flawed. You were comparing a so called "crappy" company website with a "pretty" web site, and saying the "crappy" one provided much better service and support than the "pretty" one, thus the "crappy" one would win out over the "pretty" one. Of course in the long run the "crappy" site should be able to prevail because their service, support is better. I was saying the "pretty" one will get more initial orders and if everything else is equal, the "pretty" one would be the clear cut winner. Again all I was saying is the logic in your argument is flawed, and nothing about any website in particular, yours, mine, Leet's or anyone else in particular.

 

If you want to make a personal attack then that is your prerogative, that was not my intent at all.

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Doug has been in the game alot longer with his "ugly" site than most of the "ugly site" people here....apparently something is working for him as he is going on what...6,7 years now?

 

Damn dude, that is my point exactly. Do what is working for you. If I were the owner of NEI I would not change the site at all.

 

This is the bottom line, you need to do a cost analysis. What is the rate of return on the investment. How long is it going to take to recover the investment. And is there a more cost effective project to spend the money on.

 

If you are like most of us working on a limited budget you have to decide what is going to generate the best rate of return. There are economic formulas for calculating these things. Don’t just guess like 90% of the people that start a small business. The two main reasons for small business failure is lack of capital, and a poor business plan.

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