do you or your gsp sponsor clans?

[NightLinks]

Hello,

 

I'm writing a post about clan sponsorships and where to get them and i want to include a few links in the post. I already have 5 but i would like to include a few more in there.

 

Do you or your gsp sponsor? If so can you post a link to the sponsorship page.

[Dan M]

We only sponsor developers of mods, who have a backbone for their mod already created; i.e: fully working client and server.

 

Sponsoring clans usually isn't beneficial, plus the amount of sponsorship requests that ignore our guidelines is immense.

[GodFather]

Sorry if this kinda interrupts the whole post

 

Endless - What about communities who write plugins for mods already developed, specifically SourceMod and MetaMod?

 

These plugins would alos be private and not open nor posted on the mods site(s)

 

Personally, I think it depends on the 'clan' about sales. We're sponsored and I've helped him get clients and cut prices. I do agree about all these little clans that want sponsored and have nothing to give but on advertisement on a fail site.

 

Anyways, I'm just saying I script, and it's something that has helped grow our community to be quite popular.

[studeggle]

We sponsor developers on a case by case basis. Evaluating what they are developing, how they intend to market it, and what we feel the demand for such a program would be.

 

On the individual clan and community level we have sponsored some but do not entertain requests for sponsorship at this level instead we contact clans or communities we feel may have something to offer and are trying to grow the number of servers they have.

[Dan M]

We sponsor developers on a case by case basis. Evaluating what they are developing, how they intend to market it, and what we feel the demand for such a program would be.

 

On the individual clan and community level we have sponsored some but do not entertain requests for sponsorship at this level instead we contact clans or communities we feel may have something to offer and are trying to grow the number of servers they have.

Exactly the same here.

 

@Godfather: By mods, I mean engine based mods; not some small plugin for CS: Source servers. That would be less beneficial than sponsoring a full gaming clan.

[JasonF]

Clan sponsorship = The worst form of advertising

[swish]

Simple answer....NO

[Defcon|Rich]

Never have never will. We don't believe bribing clans to say kind things is an honest way to do business.

[GodFather]

What about 'Communities' - granted they technically can be called a 'Clan'

For example us, we just seek to run full, fun, popular servers and have placement throughout the world (hopefully by end of this year we will be). Don't really get into competition much. Self run, self maintained by donators and regulars and in return, we provide them with great benefits on our servers.

 

I'm not going to lie - We really never ever run with GSP's. Me, myself, I don't believe in running a TF2 server (for an example) with some GSP's that are like "Oh it won't be popular, lets stick another server on there" - I had that experience from a host once... just saying is all.

 

On the contrary, some communities (like us :-) ) don't want to have to buy another dedicated box just to expand 1-2 servers in a new location.

 

Basically, to me it comes to the clan/community that wants sponsored, shit I'm not even a GSP and I keep getting people asking me "Can we your server, or can we have a server on your box..." Yeah, I wouldn't want to put up with those kiddies myself. It's just some communities can offer sponsor's something in return (if you know the right people)

[Admin-Nation-Servers]

Just to say, I am currently sponsoring GodFather with 3 servers In Chicago. He has been a huge financial benefit to my company. He has helped me get better deals on dedicated servers by reducing the cost of the dedicated servers by marginal value.

[Defcon|Rich]

On that token it would probably make more sense for communities to offer sponsored services since they are the ones who would like to expand the community and usually require more funding to do so.

 

A company which operates under the premise of giving away something is called a charity.

 

A company in the business of selling a product for profit who still gives it away should re-examine their business plan because it's not achieving the desired goal.

 

If you don't believe me take a walk over to your local fast mart and tell the clerk you'd like a soda and in return you will help his business by telling all your friends how great it is.. See how fast your feet hit the sidewalk

[GodFather]

Asking for a soda to drink and telling friends isn't a good analogy in my opinion. Though it could be tweaked a little to fit my favor as well

 

And Rich, you're basically saying in you GSP, you have no extra space sitting there. My personal opinion about dedicated servers, you ought to utilize all the resources you have. If you have 1-2 cores sitting there, and you can't get them sold, possibly sponsoring (or even just discounting the price a lot) to a successful community/clan can provide you future sells as Admin-Nations has said <3 you by the way An-S

 

About your point though, that's correct - We actually are offering contests/ small sponsorships to grow. Usually we rent out our League server for some fellow clans, or advertise on sites (cough like this one cough).

 

Not going to lie, we run our community like a business as well . It's the best way to success. I'm trying to cut prices, gain servers, provide more, earn more, and offer more.

A never ending cylce at http://www.iradic-esports.com

 

I mean, again. I really don't like GSP's myself, but I also don't mind FREE or even getting discounted prices if they are worth a change. The major reason I went with An-S and changed my whole population was because of his server deals. He simply told me I needed to get him a few clients, and help him find a cheaper dedicated server + modify his site and he'd sponsor us some good deals if we stay with him.

 

In any case, it's to each and their own. Nothing wrong in either way

[Derek]

Just to say, I am currently sponsoring GodFather with 3 servers In Chicago. He has been a huge financial benefit to my company. He has helped me get better deals on dedicated servers by reducing the cost of the dedicated servers by marginal value.

 

that doesnt make any sense imo.

[Derek]

Asking for a soda to drink and telling friends isn't a good analogy in my opinion. Though it could be tweaked a little to fit my favor as well

 

And Rich, you're basically saying in you GSP, you have no extra space sitting there. My personal opinion about dedicated servers, you ought to utilize all the resources you have. If you have 1-2 cores sitting there, and you can't get them sold, possibly sponsoring (or even just discounting the price a lot) to a successful community/clan can provide you future sells as Admin-Nations has said <3 you by the way An-S

 

About your point though, that's correct - We actually are offering contests/ small sponsorships to grow. Usually we rent out our League server for some fellow clans, or advertise on sites (cough like this one cough).

 

Not going to lie, we run our community like a business as well . It's the best way to success. I'm trying to cut prices, gain servers, provide more, earn more, and offer more.

A never ending cylce at http://www.iradic-esports.com

 

I mean, again. I really don't like GSP's myself, but I also don't mind FREE or even getting discounted prices if they are worth a change. The major reason I went with An-S and changed my whole population was because of his server deals. He simply told me I needed to get him a few clients, and help him find a cheaper dedicated server + modify his site and he'd sponsor us some good deals if we stay with him.

 

In any case, it's to each and their own. Nothing wrong in either way

 

The problem is, Rich can get them sold so why give you free money when he can make money out of thoose empty resources , a real business such as Defcon doesn't have trouble making money or finding clients.

 

Lets play it the other way around, when people ask for sponsorships and they say we will get you plenty of sales and I say how about you get me thoose sales then I will give you a free server well they walk the other way.

 

The only time I am willing to sponsor if the site has enough traffic coming to the website or I see a large potential. I run a gaming community 4x your size and it brings me a sale maybe every 3-6 months. So why would a site that gets next to no traffic bring me sales ?

[GS-Liam]

The problem is, Rich can get them sold so why give you free money when he can make money out of thoose empty resources , a real business such as Defcon doesn't have trouble making money or finding clients.

 

Lets play it the other way around, when people ask for sponsorships and they say we will get you plenty of sales and I say how about you get me thoose sales then I will give you a free server well they walk the other way.

 

The only time I am willing to sponsor if the site has enough traffic coming to the website or I see a large potential. I run a gaming community 4x your size and it brings me a sale maybe every 3-6 months. So why would a site that gets next to no traffic bring me sales ?

 

I agree

[wondorae]

We don’t offer sponsorships pure fact we don’t find it beneficial to us, they all say they can give us the same thing and nothing stands out, think when they ask for sponsorship most of them use a generic template I’m sure of it lol.

What I don’t get is when you clearly state on your contact us page that they are not to contact us regarding sponsorship and they still do...

That always a smart move....

To my bin!!!.

[Derek]

We don’t offer sponsorships pure fact we don’t find it beneficial to us, they all say they can give us the same thing and nothing stands out, think when they ask for sponsorship most of them use a generic template I’m sure of it lol.

What I don’t get is when you clearly state on your contact us page that they are not to contact us regarding sponsorship and they still do...

That always a smart move....

To my bin!!!.

 

lol, yea so true... you say WE DO NOT SPONSOR and they still email you... I don't get it.

[wondorae]

lol, yea so true... you say WE DO NOT SPONSOR and they still email you... I don't get it.

 

Me either m8 but its a crazy world we live in i guess.

I know they have taken the time to create the email but you gotta laugh at some of the requests ya get some times like they want you to buy tickets to lan events, pc gear and around 20 servers to power a clan of 5 lol

[GodFather]

I've helped An-S lower the cost of Dedicated servers since I've dealt with them before.

He got a quote and I talked with them and lowered that quote down $125 from his own quote. I've got him sells as well - that's what he was saying.

 

Again, I really think it comes down to the community/clan and who's behind it. I mean yeah, I do agree that 90% of clans are worthless (hell I wouldn't sponsor them if I ran GSP) Though as a community leader, I'm glad I'm getting the GSP's view as why you don't really do sponsorships & quite frankly I already knew that sponsorships don't really help. That's why I was in here debating about how there are still 'some' communities that can get you sells. I got An-s help, I'm kinda working for him now heh.

 

Gave me the other half of a Q6600, 8gigs ram, unmetered bandwidth for helping him get clients and cut prices on sells (I guess I'm the tech guy or something lol)

 

But to each and their own - Glad we all got some insight. And if you ever wanted to know why some fairly large communities don't run with GSP's, I can probably answer that

[NightLinks]

Thanks Everyone,

 

A little snippet of what i wanted the links for. Hopefully this will stop some request to companies that don't offer sponsorships.

 

Sponsor offer...

 

Sponsors will tell you up front what they are offering clans / teams / communities but that does not mean that you can not make a request. When making a sponsorship request do not over do it just ask for what you need at that moment in time.

 

A sponsor will offer a full clan package like a public gameserver, private gameserver, website hosting, fast download service, voice server to your clan / team or maybe just offer you a voice server. It all depend on the sponsor and where you are request sponsorship.

 

Things to do...

 

Hosting service providers expect you to do certain things so you can keep your sponsorship. Advertising their company name or website address by putting it in your game server hostname ( Server Title ), Message of the day ( MOTD ) file, Advertisements in-game, Adding ad banners to your website(s), Ventrilo message of the day ( MOTD )... and if you have an irc channel you can add the company name or website url to the channel title or welcome message.

 

There's some companies out there that do not want you to tell anyone that they are sponsoring your team. All they want in return is for you to add a link on your website back to their website.

 

Things to know...

 

Some companies only sponsor clans / teams when gaming leagues are in season.

Never bad mouth a hosting company, you might end up at their forum one day asking to be sponsored.

Never say "This will send you alot of traffic to your website" -- Because mostly everyone that searches for a sponsor say it.

 

http://noobgamers.com/forum/tutorials/2799-how-get-clan-sponsorship.html

[jcroom]

If you don't believe me take a walk over to your local fast mart and tell the clerk you'd like a soda and in return you will help his business by telling all your friends how great it is.. See how fast your feet hit the sidewalk

 

Bad analogy.....

 

It comes down to WHO you are sponsoring... if you have really popular teams using your server, all of the little kiddies will want to buy from you...

 

Big companies use sponsorships to gain market share all of the time like Nike, Red Bull, Coke, etc....

[SickPuppy]

Yes, HostileContact sponsors clans and race leagues. I would agree that it is not cost effective advertising but we sponsor clans for the same reason we give money to charity events. Not everything has to be about making a profit.

 

We generally offer the sponsorships to our long time loyal customers but we also sponsor new clans and race leagues. Sponsorships range from a few extra game and Voip slots to completely free 32 to 43 slot servers, Voip, and Web Hosting

 

We started as a game clan so we know what it is like to start a new clan and struggle with server payments.

[trancemode]

No.

 

we know that the economy at this time is pretty bad.. but how do you think .. we are keeping up our networks? if we sponsored or gave away free servers.. how are we gonna pay for our bills and network ulitites? think about that.

 

basically sponsoring to me.. is like begging... for food or what ever.

 

you are asking for free stuff and i know many teams will never commit to a sponsorship.

a sponsorship is a way of marketing advertisements and pretty much there not many teams now avaliable in the United States to worth sponsor.

 

It actually seems like the US gaming competitive community is slowly dying compared to years before due to Console as well. Also for those low end affordable servers.

like .49/ slot

 

If you are expecting to pay for high professional quality servers, be prepare to pay..

its like saying

 

free food at the soup kitchen?

or a nice fancy dinner resturant?

 

you pay for what you get.

you pay for quality

 

but most gsp in gsptruth.com are thinking of a way to say no to all sponsorships.

if you continue to say no.. and if everyone continue to say no.. maybe the request of sponsorship will grow slim and finally stop!

[trancemode]

Bad analogy.....

 

It comes down to WHO you are sponsoring... if you have really popular teams using your server, all of the little kiddies will want to buy from you...

 

Big companies use sponsorships to gain market share all of the time like Nike, Red Bull, Coke, etc....

 

 

I don't think Nike, Red Bull, Coke, etc. will ever go into the gaming market. except Mountain Dew. = World of Warcraft.

 

However.. you may notice that the US competitve gaming community is shortly dying.. so what team is there WORTH sponsoring? ever since console came out.. some people have transistion to console games since upgrading PC cost alot.

 

if you think about that.. there use to be big teams such as 3D, Complexity, etc. but they are pretty much dead.

 

If it was me, I rather take your time and investment in putting advertisements.. maybe we can start putting advertisements behind game magazine and such it would prob be much better than sponsoring.

 

Unless we live in Asia or Euro... their gaming community is like a real job. Look at Korea. they play starcraft for a living.. damn them

[dimitrifrom31]

Yes, HostileContact sponsors clans and race leagues. I would agree that it is not cost effective advertising but we sponsor clans for the same reason we give money to charity events. Not everything has to be about making a profit.

 

We generally offer the sponsorships to our long time loyal customers but we also sponsor new clans and race leagues. Sponsorships range from a few extra game and Voip slots to completely free 32 to 43 slot servers, Voip, and Web Hosting

 

We started as a game clan so we know what it is like to start a new clan and struggle with server payments.

 

I started as a game clan and always paid my bills.

 

Basically when you are sponsoring some ppl you need to take money from others, the ones who pay for your services.

Instead of sponsoring some teams I decided to lower prices for every1, and if some ppl cant afford a game server well too bad but hell we are just talking about games, its not like if they couldnt afford food and I was a supermarket owner watching them die.

 

I cant afford a house so I live in apartment, you gota make choices according to ur budget.

 

Now I fully understand if you sacrify some of your profits to sponsor a few teams but my personal choice was to make it fair for every1 as I dont see why some would pay and some would get the same service for free.