GameServers.com Market Share

[Derek]

Hi there,

 

As we all know GameServers.com probably owns more then 50% of the current market share in the game server industry. Do you think we will ever see a game server provider start eating into there market share ? I honestly feel until a merger such as Multiplay + AoWC happens we won't see there market share go down at all. Thoughts ?

[Broseph]

I honestly think it's just a matter of time. It will be very gradual since they're so well established and their name is universally recognizable but every person that has bought from them, that I know, has had problems.

[ECF]

I feel that people spend too much time worrying about what everyone else is doing instead of using that time to build and promote their own business.

 

 

Case and point. The larger GSPs that we have as TCAdmin client very rarely post here. Why? Because they are busy running their own business.

 

If you are thinking about gunning for gs.com then think again. Their company does not rely on game server sales to float itself. They have other points of income that are far more lucrative than gameservers.

[adamnp]

I feel that people spend too much time worrying about what everyone else is doing instead of using that time to build and promote their own business.

 

 

Case and point. The larger GSPs that we have as TCAdmin client very rarely post here. Why? Because they are busy running their own business.

 

If you are thinking about gunning for gs.com then think again. Their company does not rely on game server sales to float itself. They have other points of income that are far more lucrative than gameservers.

 

I agree with this statement. GS is just a petproject of Anthony's, dave could seriously careless about it, you can get a first hand impression of that by walking in the place but even if they have 50%, thats still 50% available and 50% that could be all yours which would make you just as big as them.

[Jesse]

I agree with this statement. GS is just a petproject of Anthony's, dave could seriously careless about it, you can get a first hand impression of that by walking in the place but even if they have 50%, thats still 50% available and 50% that could be all yours which would make you just as big as them.

 

Invest in SEO, they're bringing in somewhere from 30-45+ sales per day just from their #1 spot on Google.

[lpgservers]

Where do people make these numbers up from? Lately a lot of people post their assumptions on numbers for this, that, and the other thing. How in the hell would you even have the slightest clue how many sales per day they would generate from anything they do or anyone does that you have 0 knowledge of?

[Jesse]

Where do people make these numbers up from? Lately a lot of people post their assumptions on numbers for this, that, and the other thing. How in the hell would you even have the slightest clue how many sales per day they would generate from anything they do or anyone does that you have 0 knowledge of?

 

The #2 spot does 10-15 per day according to the person who is #2. If you read enough about the conversion rate differences between the #1 and #2 spots for many other keywords you can speculate that 30-45 is accurate. I'll give you some links to SEO blogs if you're interested.

[lpgservers]

Don't need anything to waste my time reading to speculate. Like I said, there is no way to justify whether #2 is telling you the truth, whether your relaying that information correctly, and whether those numbers can be substantiated by any means.

[Jesse]

Don't need anything to waste my time reading to speculate. Like I said, there is no way to justify whether #2 is telling you the truth, whether your relaying that information correctly, and whether those numbers can be substantiated by any means.

 

I think that's a bit biased as you have some built up hate towards Ronnie at UltimateGameServer already.

[ECF]

Please stay on topic guys. No need for the "this company hates this one". People will always have issues at some point with another company, but no need to drag it into a thread,

 

Thanks

[Jesse]

I thought it was relevant to say why I was being called a liar, sorry ECF.

[lpgservers]

I didn't even guess it was Ronnie and I have no hate/ill feelings toward either of you. You were forced into relinquishing what customers you had to settle a debt since you dragged your feet. Ronnie was a businessman and seized an opportunity.

 

Anyhow, I wouldn't have guessed Ronnie was #2 and would have thought there were plenty of others ahead of him like aowc, Hypernia, etc.

 

If you notice, it's not me hastling you in other threads...I just simply thought your take on providing numbers out of the air was a bit strange.

 

As far as this topic, I think Kevin has it absolutely right. Pay attention to what others are doing to learn from and use to your advantage but focus on your business first.

[adamnp]

i personally achieved that #1 spot for a few months a long time ago when I first SEO'd gameservers.ws , and I can definately attest that whilst the spot did bring in a decent amount of traffic, the conversions weren't the greatest. A majority of the traffic left to wikipedia, as most were searching for information and not providers.

 

Hence, why I then seo'd to different keys, and attained much better results....Theres more to it than a domainname.

[SickPuppy]

I can definately attest that whilst the spot did bring in a decent amount of traffic, the conversions weren't the greatest.

 

I agree the conversion rate is more important that the volume of traffic.

[lpgservers]

I agree the conversion rate is more important that the volume of traffic.

 

Huh?

 

Your conversion is likely to go down by driving more traffic since your likely to bring in those that aren't explicitly looking for what your offering. However, not bringing the traffic in volume but only in to buy isn't a better prospect in my opinion.

 

I'd have rather have a million hits per day with a .01% Conversion rate than have 100 visits with a 10% conversion rate.

[adamnp]

Huh?

 

Your conversion is likely to go down by driving more traffic since your likely to bring in those that aren't explicitly looking for what your offering. However, not bringing the traffic in volume but only in to buy isn't a better prospect in my opinion.

 

I'd have rather have a million hits per day with a .01% Conversion rate than have 100 visits with a 10% conversion rate.

 

I don't think your comparision is realistic though....The goal should be to increase traffic and maintain a high conversion rate...Not increase traffic and loose your conversion. Wouldn't you rather have a million hits per day with a 10% conversion? I would -- And this would kinda make what you stated above not realistic. They should both play similar importance. I was just stating that you typically might see a better conversion from the keyword "left4dead2 servers" than say "gameservers" , correlating that with the original question in regards to GS holding the #1 spot for certain keywords.

[leetservers]

I feel that people spend too much time worrying about what everyone else is doing instead of using that time to build and promote their own business..

 

 

What he said!

 

=bobby

[lpgservers]

The comparison wasn't meant to be realistic and I agree with you. It was more or less meaning that as your site's hits go up the conversion is going to go down to some degree. To what degree will depend on innumerable factors to each site.

[jbiloh]

I know some of our best projects have been inspired by looking at others, improving on their methods, and then doing well.

[Derek]

This thread went from gameservers.com market share to selling Q6600's and SEO. nice!

[Jesse]

SEO is important in gaining and sustaining market share!

[Fragnet]

This thread went from gameservers.com market share to selling Q6600's and SEO. nice!

 

I second that opinion. In fact, I see this kind of tendency in most of the threads in this part of the forums. GSP owners battling each other and flaming people for having this or that pricing. I see some people trying to advertise, but the threads turn into flaming instead. I would personally expect more from people trying to run a respectable GSP business.

 

My view on market share is this: I believe 80% of the hosts on these forum competes about the same 1/3 of a share of game server customers in their region. Only by finding new unique ways of reaching to the remaining 2/3 part, will you be able to get larger piece of the market. (The values are taken out of the open, but I needed to do so to prove my point)