BrandonW Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I was looking at leasing options from dell and I can get a blazing fast machine. These are the specs: 2x Dual core xeon 2.66 GHz 4 gb 667 ECC ram Windows server standard w/ 5 CAL's 2x 1000 mbps ports We will be co-locating with this machine if we purchase it. How many slots/servers can i get on this beast? Thanks for all the help guys! EDIT: If i co locate in a local data-center I only get 1000 gb of bandwith. Is that good for this or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studeggle Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 As has been stated before. What game? What business structure: cheap bulk servers / quality select servers? Will web, or SQL be running on it? Any other applications besides games? It is looking like you need to do a bunch more research before you start renting/leasing/buying stuff, as your questions at least are way to vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I wouldnt go direct to a datacenter, your going to get REAMED on bandwidth pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonF Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 It is looking like you need to do a bunch more research before you start renting/leasing/buying stuff, as your questions at least are way to vague. I would have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonW Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share Posted June 24, 2007 Ok sorry. I will be running CSS and CS1.6 and maybe 1 or 2 bf2 servers. And sql/IIS with tcadmin master. Sorry i am throwing this at you vaguely i am just anxious to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I would assume the box is a dual woodcrest, a dual clovertown is about the same cost but more powerful, Id look at going that direction. As for the bandwidth, when you start looking at more then just 1 servers, your going to need to start paying for bandwidth by the mbit. 1mbit used 24/7 is about 350gbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonW Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share Posted June 24, 2007 OK so what your saying is I will use the 1000 gb up quick. Because the afgserv.com guy co-locates in the same place im interested in colocating and he said he has never gone over his bandwith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 You wont ever go over your 1000GB, you probaly wont go over 2 megs. But as you add more servers, you will eventually need to swap to 95% billing which is going to kill you on price. What are they charging you? 99/month for the package? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougK94 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 If you are starting out with just a single server or only a few, I would lean towards leasing a dedicated(s) server(s). Colocating, when you figure in all of your expenses is not justifiable until you have a number of servers. When you get to that point, then colocating is definitely the way to go. Some others may agree or disagree with me . I would recommend running only games on your server and using TCAdmin to host your TCAdmin control website. You do not really want to use up the resources for it that should be devoted to game servers Or you could look at some of the providors of dedicated servers with TCAdmin pre-installed at http://tcadmin.com/dedicated.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 You need to amortize your capx cost over the lease term, factor in space/power/bandwidth, factor in the tax liabilities of having deprecating hardware. For us, there was no comparison, then again, we use ALOT of bandwidth We have a fiber drop to our networking gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisOlver Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Jordan, How much do you push on 95th? -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Afraid I cant share that, but its alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Nationwide, its over 200mbits though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbiloh Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 This thread made me laugh. Thanks Jordan. No such secrets in this industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeK Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Why did it make you laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 This thread made me laugh also.. Who exactly are you referring to that pushes more then 200mbits? I'm assuming GNAX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 No, FragnServers on their network pushes over 200mbit nationwide, dont forget we now have a vent LICENSED company that owns a large share of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Ok.. I'm still not understanding what one has to do with the other.. Don't understand about the vent "LICENSED" company either.. Is this a major point of advertising all the sudden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Im not trying to advertise here, I just answered the question truthfully rich, you have my contact info, feel free to contact me if you want more information. There are more than 1 companies running on the FragnServers network. And GNAX pushes alot more then 200mbits http://www.gnax.net/mrtg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Ok, First of all colocating a few machines doesn't give you ownership of the network they are hooked up to. When you and your pal Jon start running your own fiber city to city to connect your equipment that's colocated at someone elses datacenter then you can advertise all you want about your "nationwide" network but until then the network you connect your servers to doesn't list either of you on their board of directors so I would advise sticking to the facts because your doing nothing but confusing your potential customers. Likewise, working for GNAX as a sales rep doesn't give you permission to use their name in this way nor do they have anything nationwide unless Georgia became it's own country at some point and nobody mentioned it.. I would also suggest watching who you cozy up with Jordan as not everyone is your friend. Some folks advertise they are doing well but in reality are less then a few months away from going under.. I would hate to see you get burned when the floor falls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Rich, A) We have more then a "few machines" B) When I said FragnServers network I was talking about everything under our CISCO-3550-48EMIs. C)Im not a "sales rep" for GNAX, atleast get my job title right. D) I didnt use their name in any way other then say that they push more then 200mbits of bandwidth. E) You do know I go direct to datacenter in all but 1 location. Jon/colocrossing is a great company with great products/prices, but we were not able to come to an agreement on price that was competitive to what we were getting at SteadFast which is where we have maintained a presence from day 1. F) We are currently only colocated in sanjose with colocrossing. This will be my final comment on this as the point of this thread was to help the host with his colocation questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 That was the point of my post also. I noticed lately many providers throwing around terms that have no meaning and wanted to clarify for the readers here. Thank you for updating. Just for the record Steadfast and colocrossing rent cabinets from their respective datacenter locations which is what many providers do. The only difference is most don't try to imply they own the datacenter. Like I said above, Just trying to keep everyone honest. I have nothing to gain or lose either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 The real reason of your post is you were afraid of me taking the asshole GSP provider title from you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon|Rich Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Christ Jordan, I'm still laughing.. I was eating frozen strawberries and literally spit them on my desk when I read that.. GG's, But you have a long way to go young jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daersun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 “Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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