I really hate this industry sometimes

[Todd Holley]

How many dollars is that?

[j0nnyt]

hey,

 

Its about 940 dollars.

[Todd Holley]

I believe you are being ripped off, or you translated that wrong. I can get a quad core server with 1 gig of ram 2000 gb of bandwith and windows server for 159 a month.

 

 

And I can upgrade ram @ 20.00 a gig.

[Daersun]

Im sorry did i detect a hit of... My prices are perfect! I am making £40 Per Dedicated Server thats turn over by the way!! Thats one dedi and im renting it! The dedicated server i have just orderd is exacly the same and the profit for that one is £100-130 per month!

 

If i was you i woudnt be so Presumptuious on other peoples business, i know what im doing im not stuped!

 

Thanks,

 

Jonathan Thirkill

 

Ok, I will bite!

 

Looked at your order form (I had not before which is the ironic thing. You are charging 16UKP for the following

10 slot CSS 100 tick

10 slot ventrilo.

 

You are paying 460 UKP for a server, meaning you need 28.75 customers per server to break even. Thats before ventrillo and staff costs.

 

Did I do my math wrong?

[Todd Holley]

I know this was intended for j0nny, but the math looks correct.

[Defcon|Rich]

The problem people make is profits aren't scaleable meaning if you make $100 profit hosting one box you do not make $1000 hosting 10..

 

 

The biggest mistake you can make is underestimating the cost to run your business.

 

 

 

And yes I am quite sure you could find all kinds of servers for lower prices. Just check out some of the WHT offers.. You might also check some of the past offers and see how many of those guys are still in business ..

[jbiloh]

All your base are belong to us.

 

Rich is pretty much spot on here. The GSP industry isn't for the weak of heart.

[Daersun]

That being said There are alot of great guys in the industry.

[HIS-MOTHER]

That being said There are alot of great guys in the industry.

 

Thank You! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[j0nnyt]

hey,

 

OMG lol, thats to buy the server for ever one off charge, and the £20 per month co-location, the ones im renting are £85 Per Month!

 

Thanks,

 

sorry for confusion!

[Daersun]

does the 85/month include windows 2k3 + tcadmin's 15.95?

[HIS-MOTHER]

does the 85/month include windows 2k3 + tcadmin's 15.95?

 

NO! It's 98SE and a NUB who gets a free server to take commands and issue them.

[j0nnyt]

hey,

 

For the dedi and all software and OS its £92 a month

[Stealth]

whats UKP?

 

I was programming and running my own successful gaming ladders and leagues when i was 14. If you want to, you can do it. But there are not many substitutes for age and experience.

 

-Paul

[HIS-MOTHER]

Well I had another DEADBEAT call me a Ahole today. Check this out. LOL.

 

 

 

"

 

michael: Hay I still need the files from the Echo6 website i only need the first page please

 

SnM Support: then pay the bill

 

michael: the srever has been moved to a new provider

 

michael: and you did not trasfer the files like you were supposed to

 

SnM Support: im sorry? i didnt transfer anything.. I have no obligation to transfer any files anywhere.. Last I was told by you and another member was that the bill was being paid, Which it was not!

 

michael: It has not becuase Ryan left the clan he started putting up bad Comments about people in the clan so I had to move the site

 

michael: and no one had the ability to change anything on the site

 

SnM Support: it's not my problem.. The way i see it you have a choice to pay the bill or not ,, then even if you paid the bill your name is not on the account so I could not send you the files anyway.

 

michael: i am asking you to as the owner of the name of echo6.us

 

SnM Support: look you are not understanding.... Its legally not your property

 

SnM Support: your name isnt on the account

 

michael: ok Fine

 

SnM Support: Collecting Domain Name and IP....

User: echo6us

Domain: echo6.us

Killing all processes owned by user...Done

Cleaning passwd,shadow,group....Done

Removing User from Group....Done

Removing Domlogs...Done

Removing crontab...Done

Removed Extra Entries from httpd.conf

Removed Entry from httpd.conf

Removed Entry from proftpd.conf

Removing User....Done

Removing Group....Done

Removing Named entry...echo6.us -> deleted from snmw1.

Done

Removing mail aliases...

Removing /etc/valiases/echo6.us

Done

Removing mailman lists...

Done

Removing MySQL databases and users....

Database "echo6us_BOHICA2" dropped

Database "echo6us" dropped

Done

Removing localdomains entires....Done

Adding ip back to ipaddrpool....Done

Removing Control Panel file....Done

Removing Stats Run Information....Done

Removing Proftpd File....Done

 

 

Removing bandwidth information...

Done

 

Notification => support@snmservers.com via EMAIL [level => 3]

Done

Updating ftp passwords for all users

Ftp password files updated.

Ftp vhost passwords synced

 

 

SnM Support: and there we have just solved your dilema

 

SnM Support:

 

SnM Support: all gone

 

michael: your an ass hole you know that

 

SnM Support: i am? for terminating a deadbeat account? For not releasing Intellectual property to the non owner? For keeping myself from a lawsuit?

 

SnM Support: Thank you

 

 

Gotta love Sunday mornings, Drinking my coffee and having a lil chat with a deadbeat. LOL . God I love this.

SnM Support:

[Daersun]

Looks like you were the asshole if you asked me...

 

Call a big company, and ask them to do something that they cannot do. They will apologize and say they are unable to do that. I personally would be offended with the customer service you offered. I understand the account was past due, but in that case just stick to the policies you have in place.

[HIS-MOTHER]

yes I am a asshole. I didnt give a non client files that someone else owned, I terminated a 3 week past due account which was taking up space on my server. I waited 3 weeks for a payment they said was coming. Yup im an asshole

 

Here was my Convo with the guy a week ago.

 

michael: the echo 6 server pill

 

SnM Support: pill?

 

michael: bill lol

 

SnM Support: yes it was sent

 

michael: how much is it

 

SnM Support: 9.99

 

michael: i am going to the bank latter today can you please put it back up tell this after noon

 

michael: I will be paying you after i get to the bank

 

SnM Support: ok you got till tonight

 

michael: thank you verymuch

 

SnM Support:

 

michael: ok i went to the bank and they were closed due to some event. so i can not get the cash to you today but monday i will be paying for 2.

 

So turning the guys website back on, on a promise of payment over 8 days ago is being an asshole after it was already 2 weeks late? Yup..

 

And you feel that giving someone access to files that does not have there name on the account is ok? Cool.. Can I have access to all your client files then?

 

Oh yeah.. Not to mention that these guys popped there bandwidth 13 days into the month and I unsuspended the account at no charge.

[Daersun]

you mistake going above and beyond for customer service.

 

Some times great customer service is saying, im really sorry but I am unable to do that.

[HIS-MOTHER]

Your contradicting yourself. LOL First I'm an ass then I am going above and beyond.

 

 

I win

[Daersun]

Not at all, let me explain it more.

 

You dont have to give away the farm to provide good customer service. Its less about what you give him and more about how you treat him.

[HIS-MOTHER]

LOL. 10 bucks isnt the farm. And being nice for 3 weeks waiting for that 10.00 was plenty. When he accused me of not transfering files to him which were not his Yes then I become a asshole .. pay up or go away! LOL.

 

Besides , Tewrminating that account after 3 weeks was within my right and it made him go away instead of constantly asking for something that was not his.

[Daersun]

Ok, lets try this again. Say you sign up for power, then dont pay your bill and it gets shut off.

 

You call up and ask for it to be turned back on without paying.

 

Does the rep act like a dick, or does she calmly say she cannot do that.

[HIS-MOTHER]

Bad example.

 

We are not the utility company and we always try and work with clients who have been in good standing for a while. I guess you would need the whole history of a client to really make that determination.

 

After 3 weeks of working with a LIAR, yes I turn into a dick . oh well. Tell you what. I'll reffer him to you you can be nice t him.

 

Besides I do webhosting as a convenience not a living. They are more headaches then they are worht. You can't make money on voice and web hosting unless you do a ton of them. GSP means just that.. Game Server Provider .

[Daersun]

Sure send them to me, if they dont pay, I will calmly explain our policies and say there is nothing I can do until payment is rendered and I am very sorry.

[HIS-MOTHER]

No worries, as i am sure they will burn there bridges at there new host. LOL . Boy this has been a fun topic D.

 

I love boring Sunday's